Tuesday, February 1, 2011

Why does socialism work in countries such as finland, denmark and norway but not the USA or Australia


Why does socialism work in countries such as finland, denmark and norway but not the USA or Australia?

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Ethics in the case of the US. Those countries mention have common ethics that (most) people want to work and NOT take advantage of the system. They use it as needed and share a common set of beliefs and background. A few people abusing the system and it can still function. In the US there are too many background beliefs and ethics that too many believe they are due a support system and do not have to put into it or work. They have no incentive to support the system for others when it is needed. The numbers simply do not support the weight of a true socialism system, it would become top heavy and fall over. I do not wish to draw any conclusions about Australia. As the tax system and background of the people are only known to me from books.
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Denmark is not a so called socialist state. In fact the present danish government is liberal and conservative, unitary parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy. This applies to Norway and Finland is a parliamentary republic or parliamentary constitutional republic is a type of republic which operates under a parliamentary system of government - meaning a system with no clear-cut separation of powers between the executive and legislative branches.
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Your premise is false. A degree of socialism works everywhere. All US Presidential administrations support a degree of socialism, but the perspective is different. Democrats believe in socialism that redistributes wealth from the upper class, to the middle and lower classes. Republicans believe in socialism that redistributes wealth from the middle and lower classes, and gives it to the wealthy.
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With that answer, I am prepared to vote for Carl P for president next year. Well put sir.
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freedom is a funny thing that very few have actually experienced no country is free when they are afraid of their government, only People from revolutions experience true freedom but we have been told to believe we need order to create a "perfect society" but more order only results in more chaos, the only things people need are god and good moral values to live in peace and harmony we don't need "isms" we need freedom. As Americans we believe we are free because we broke away from Britain as did austrailia but we only become a mirror image of them. As for Finland, Denmark, and norway they have not ever thought of themselves as not being free they just do as they have done for centuries and follow their countries order thinking it will help better their society. Hopefully one day all countries will experience freedom and peace and learn that power only leads to corruption.
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Are you sure these countries have socialist governments? How do you define "working"? Redistribution schemes can work for awhile. Some say that the reason for a disparity in wealth among humans is because of greed and evil, but it has been shown that if all the wealth is taken from the rich and redistributed to the poor, within a very short period of time, the former rich will begin to get that way again and the majority of former poor will soon become poor again, albeit with more stuff. Socialism worked for a brief time in Rhodesia. But soon after all the wealth was seized, the country fell into disparate times. (1) The only fair and equitable systems are liberal systems also known as free market capitalist economies. (2)
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AND where did you get the mistaken idea that socialism works in Finland, Denmark and Norway..... on what criteria do you make this comparison?.... The United States is physically bigger and much more populous.... more diverse and complex.... this is sort of like comparing apples and oranges If you proportionally reduce all the factors (GNP, GDP, etc etc) you will find America is FAR more successful across the board..... example: Name one scientific contribution any of those countries has made to the world..... I have a LONG list of American contributions....from "Tang" to the Nuclear Bomb Socialism is the antithesis to Capitalism and causes social stagnation.... in a pure form socialism has NEVER worked.....
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Because you have got Socialism wrong. They were and are a Socialist nation but Indians got it wrong and I have even crticised Das Capita for this and it is this very Nepharious Philosophy that has beaten many Natinalists from their own Homes and they wandered away as Pilgrims... and it does say Progress they have Progressed and not Regressed as Das and capita thus explianing why that system was a Fail. It was Criminal ans wooing the innocent who wanted a change but for the good and not worse.Thus such actions and principles that guided them to justify all their activities in the name of Socialism was to the contrary an action taken out of guilt to protect the criminals and continue in their crime in a fiercer and more confident way. There is a subtler one too like that in Entertainment, sports and Business the very backbone and education the very foundational truth has been RAPED by such a Philosophy. In Indian terminology it is better understood as I see no evil, I say no evil I hear no evil. But to say I see good in evil and to say I say the truth in Gods name and to say I heard nothing but the truth when it was a LIE... is Rape to the very Purity of Knowledge.. and Justice system has been the Violater of such acts which the nation bore but it took very less time to bring it down to Physical in the name of Community Living. Sharing everything common is good but to share your wallet with others is considered as a Fool.. or even Bribe... gross violation!!! To share your bed with another man or women is considered as the In Thing live up with time... but to deny a stranger that very sacred thing is considered as Denial needing reproof!!! This is RAPE!!! of Knowledge... Vidhya Mandir turned to Vidhya Mandir of Temple Prostitutes who had been freed from such social evils and nuicense but today that very evil is considered as worship!!!!! and not ytaking this up would rip me from my very roots of my forefathers.How secure am I in this EVIL SYSTEM that is worshiped and desired by many...? When I question such ethos that are already existing I consider myself as a scion unfit for this POLITICAL SYSTEM and therefore wouldn't vote as that would mean to me that I have voted a Govt in to Rape the Constitution and the Preamble of A Free INDIA ,never was it taken over by any Nation or People group or isms. This is the IRON WALL of INDIA... HER Constitution that protects her people from such an Invasive act of Subtility and wickedness in return of the TRUST that we put on such. We should be people walking and signing papers with an open eye and do less talking lesser more listening. It will do good for our Honoured PM elected by the People of India not to listen to Gillani's passionate pleas on ground of anything.... for we are known as a sleeping giant but when awake... we put others to sleep!!!! but infact to invite The Honoured ASIF ZARDARI to hear him joke on International TERRORISM!!! We as one people from Pakistan and Bangladesh would have a Royal Time in the Royal Palace of the Maharaja Mann SIngh Shri Mann Mohan Singh where I think all Royal Invitees alone should be present... to share all of their light times and dark times... its common friends on a Common floor which is Royal... and any act of treason will be immediately sensed and swiftly and politely dealt with.
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Finland, Denmark, Norway, and Sweden practice a form of Democratic Socialism. This basically means that the country controls or influences certain parts of the economy either through regulation, or just owning certain industries. They also engage in higher taxation policy that allows them to provide social services such as education, welfare, health care, utilities, daycare as well as a bunch of others. In a truly free market economy none of these thing would be provided, not even education. Taxation would be kept at a minimum. Only enough to keep a small government and provide defense. So to an extent even the U.S is also a Democratic Socialism. Don't tell them that! All of these things, however, are done through a democratic process. Which would allow them to either become more socialistic or less depending on how the population feels. Australia, in fact most western countries, tend to be more socialistic then the U.S. Australia tends to be like Canada, which Americans always consider to be Pink. Not exactly Red (A Socialism), but close. To fully answer your question. To say that Democratic Socialism doesn't work in the U.S is wrong, because the socialism that they do have does work. You also can't tell if something works if they don't have it? for example: does universal health care work in the U.S? most likely, based on other countries, it would work. Just because they don't have it, doesn't mean it doesn't work for them.
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Well none of these countries are socialist, but they have differing levels of socialism within their democracies, with US the least, Australia in the middle, and the scandanavian countries having the most socialism. But all of them are democracies, so the people have the freedom to alter their own system if they decide it doesn't "work" for them anymore. However currently these countries have high standards of living, health, etc. so it is currently working for them. It's hard to say whether or not having more socialism would "work" or not in the USA without trying it. How well do the current socialist programs work in the USA (i.e. medicare, etc.)?